174. Friday Convos with Young Pros: Money, Promotions + Difficult Conversations - Jonathan McCoy, CFRE, Becky Endicott, CFRE, and Julie Confer

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This week's Friday Convos with Young Professionals dives into building a personal career path while navigating those stressful conversations around money, promotions and difficult conversations. Jon's already sweating this chat around tough conversations like asking for more $$$ (when, how and why you should) and why professional development is crucial to your increased worth. We'll be examining how to find your strengths and passions while intentionally chasing opportunities in the sector. See you Friday🎧

Every season a puzzle piece is being built in your story. In your current season, completely build out that puzzle piece. You may be developing a skill now that you’re going to use in 10 years that you’re not even realizing.
— Julie Confer, Producer, We Are For Good Podcast

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Episode Overview

  • Money, promotions + navigating difficult conversations (1:00)

  • Building a professional development plan for yourself (4:00)

  • Every season, a puzzle piece is being built in your story (13:00)

  • Determining your career path: leverage personality tests and discovering your purpose (14:50)

  • Asking for more $$$ (when, how and why you should) (17:00)

  • Negotiating your first job offer (23:00)

  • Powerful statistics around job negotiations (Forbes) (25:00)

  • Navigating difficult conversations and conflict (29:00)

  • Difficult conversations at work: 9 tips + templates (Blog post by Tom Anderson, Haven Life) (30:00)

  • Closing rapid fire questions (32:00)

  • We Are For Good Community

  • We Are For Good PRO

Powerful quotes

“As a young professional, if you adopt the ethos of being hungry, positive, and humble, that is probably the most important thing to hear.” -Jon

“As you’re navigating your career and having difficult conversations, every person you are about to have a difficult conversation with, has had a difficult conversation with someone.” -Becky

“If you take ownership of that saying this is your personal career, you get the chance to chase the values and the important things that are put on your calling, or heart or whatever you want to say, You are responsible for that.” -Jon

“Yeah, because that position of leadership is a position of privilege at that point. And you need to always be thinking about how can I help others get to this position or beyond me?” -Jon

“Let your dreams flex and grow as you evolve as a human being.” -Becky

“Know why the fences are there before you propose taking them down.” -Jon

“What are the pain points of your organization? We've talked about this of in your first 30 days you're gonna start to hear things and things that you could tackle things that you could alleviate that is causing stress or strain or holding the organization back. As you start doing that, that can be part of your professional development.” -Jon

“There's some grit of having some experience. It doesn't have to be your perfect dream job as your first job. If you have this idea that you can learn or grow wherever you're at like there's so much you can take forward to create your dream job.” -Jon

“Every season a puzzle piece is being built in your story. In your current season, completely build out that puzzle piece. You may be developing a skill now that you're going to use in 10 years that you're not even realizing.” -Julie

“I think you naturally have some of these skills or you gravitate towards things that you like to do.” -Julie

“Everything is a pebble casting a ripple, so seize those moments.” -Becky

“Just look for those nudges of what you're naturally gravitating toward, maybe something that catches your eye on LinkedIn about a job that somebody does because I think you'll find your purpose and your passion along the way. But it does seem daunting when someone's like, what do you want to be when you grow up? Because I think people my age are still figuring it out.” -Julie

“Don't go in there and just say, I'd like to make more money. Have your data, have your number and go in with your case for why you made that.” -Becky

“Never make it personal.” -Jon

“I think it's really common for additional job duties to just get piled on. And over the course of time, like, keep note of that, too. I mean, we were coaching you to be the yes person to get in there and be willing to have nothing below you. But at some point, you're no longer doing the job you were hired to do. So the price associated with such doesn't line up.” -Jon

“The new wealth these days is not just money, it's our time, it's our balance.” -Jon

“Your earnings at your current job are going to help determine the salary of your next job.” -Becky

“Every single day that you're on the job, you're adding more value to the organization, you're getting more skill sets, and you're just becoming a more seasoned professional and there is currency and value tied to that.” -Becky

“It's so important to understand these conversations, being able to negotiate your salary, whether you're coming right out of college, or you've been in this sector, because unless women take decisive action on some of this, the gender pay gap will not close until 2106. And it is 2021.” -Julie (Forbes)

“Be equipped and really know the value of the position, the value that you're bringing to the table, and the stats. So not being afraid, in a humble, kind way, having those conversations, it's going to set you up to be on a much different trajectory.” -Jon

“If you can show up and say, This is what I believe I'm worth this is what I believe my value is and approach it very kindly, but very firmly, you know, someone will take note of that, that you know, you are somebody who knows what they want.” -Becky

“You need to walk into this, knowing that there are two sides to the situation. And pushing your own agenda without being an active listener to the other side is not going to allow you to have a resolution.” -Becky

“So here's a pro tip for leaders, check in often. Recognize, affirm, redirect, if it's appropriate, commend.” -Becky

“The temporary discomfort or the fear around difficult conversations, is worth the long term meaningful impact.” -Julie

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